Doctor Yourself

Tuesday, January 11, 2011

Spaga in Rai

Oh, da, cunosc textul preferat ; am plecat din Romanika, pentru ca ne-am saturat de coruptie, si de dat spaga. Si am ajuns in Rai, unde am aflat ca nu romanii au inventat spaga ...
   Mai scriau ziarele despre coruptia din rai, si mai nou au inceput sa scrie si despre spaga. E adevarat, nu e asa pe fata si de des cum se intampla in Romania, insa ...totul are un inbceput. Ca sa citez intelepciunea populara " Cine fura azi un ou .... " 

Cum se asteapta luni de zile ( 6-9 ) ca sa-ti faci o tomografie, sau sa te vada un doctor specialist, am mai spus. Cum se asteapta pentru o operatie mult mai mult de cateva luni, iarasi am mai spus.
   Acuma, cand esti in dureri, sau in scaun cu rotile, si astepti sa-ti vina randul la operatie, la Pastele Cailor , timpul trece altfel. Si ai doua optiuni : astepti in chinurile iadului, cu boala agravandu-se ( si de regula fara medicatie, pentru ca asta o stabileste doctorul specialist ...adica fix ala pentru care astepti luni de zile ! ) , ori .... iti amintesti iarasi de intelepciunea populara cu " banu '-i ochiu' dracului " ....

Ca sa vezi cum umbla dracu' si prin rai, ca prin ograda lui ta'c sau ...
" They chose a surgeon they wanted and slipped him $2,000 cash.
Their mother was bumped to the top of the waiting list.
We wanted to save our mother,” said Vivian Green. “It was cash incentive, to buy our place ahead of everyone else.”
Adica pacientul a dat o mica spaga doctorului, asa, de vreo 2.000 $, ca sa ajunga in fruntea listei de pacienti care asteptau sa fie operati. Poti sa-l condamni ? Nu poti : pentru pacientul avea cancer. Si stim ca , daca astepta luni de zile, cancerul ala avansa.... deci avea viata pusa in balanta. Sistemului medical nu-i pasa ca pana iti vine randul la operatie poti muri ; insa doctorului i-a pasat ...contra cost ! Ca asa-i in rai....nimic nu e gratis ...

Asa cum spune pacienta care a dat spaga "
If you have money you live, and if you don’t, you die.” Daca ai bani ...traiesti. Daca n-ai bani ...mori.
si alti pacienti s-au oferit sa dea detalii ziaristilor despre cum platesc ei spaga la doctori, ca sa nu moara in timp ce asteapta sa le vina randul la operatie ...
  Tot in articol, pacientii ne spun care este "mercurialul ' spagii in spitale, si aflam cum asta e ceva....normal : un secret binecunoascut tuturor. Ca se da spaga : ca sa ajungi in fruntea listei de asteptare, sa-ti poti salva viata. Se da spaga si ca sa fii singur ca doctorul va fi prezent la nastere ....
Am sa pun intregul articol la sfarsitul postarii, in caz ca va disparea de pe saitul original : sa ramana pentru posteritate....
Despre spaga la doctori, scriu si alte ziare

Charlie Fidelman, Postmedia News · Friday, Nov. 26, 2010

MONTREAL—When their mother was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, a pair of Montreal sisters didn’t hesitate: They chose a surgeon they wanted and slipped him $2,000 cash.
Their mother was bumped to the top of the waiting list.
“We wanted to save our mother,” said Vivian Green. “It was cash incentive, to buy our place ahead of everyone else.”
Ms. Green and her sister — whose father was an obstetrician at Montreal’s Jewish General Hospital — say bribes are an open secret in the medical field.
“If you have money you live, and if you don’t, you die.”
Critics say the practice is illegal and unethical, but several patients who contacted the Montreal Gazette say offering surgeons envelopes stuffed with cash has become a way to speed up treatment.
One high-ranking physician, who works with doctors at several Montreal hospitals, said obstetricians often accept cash offered by expectant parents to ensure their doctor attends the delivery, instead of whichever doctor is on call.
“I’ve learned that it’s current practice . . . everyone within these hospitals knows about it,” he said. “It’s systemic, and it’s been so for a long time now.”

The doctor said it costs a minimum of $2,000 to guarantee that an expecting woman’s doctor will be there for the birth. “And it can go up to $10,000.”
For general surgery, he said, the cost runs between $5,000 to $7,000 to jump the wait list into the operating room.
For Ms. Green and her sister, the $2,000 got their mother’s operation bumped up, but not the surgeon they wanted.
The family initially offered cash to a surgeon at the Jewish General Hospital, who accepted an envelope — but returned it within days, saying the operation was beyond his expertise. Ms. Green was then referred to a doctor at the Royal Victoria Hospital.
“We wanted to have the operation done by (someone) who we know is the best,” she said.
An envelope filled with $20 bills that was slid across the surgeon’s desk at a second appointment set the surgery date.
“I gave it to him discreetly — and he took it. He knew what was in the envelope,” she said. “He took the money and never showed up.”
Another member of the doctor’s surgical team removed the tumour in September. But their 80-year-old mother died this month of cancer.
The family plans to file a formal complaint, Ms. Green said, because patients are helpless in such situations.

“Payment for services should be stopped.”
Karine Rivard, spokeswoman for Quebec Health Minister Yves Bolduc, said the province’s health department has never heard of the practice. “But if this is the case, then it’s unacceptable,” she said.
After consulting Mr. Bolduc, Ms. Rivard added: “Minister Bolduc is urging people who are aware of it to report it to Quebec College of Physicians.”
Gaetan Barrette, head of the Quebec Association of Specialists, had some stronger words, calling the practice disgusting, scandalous and indefensible.
“It makes me very sad,” he said, adding that patients should complain to Quebec’s physicians’ disciplinary board.
Meanwhile, the Quebec College of Physicians said it condemns any form of kickbacks, but is not aware of any complaints about the practice.
The board’s main investigator has not had a single complaint, said newly elected president Charles Bernard.
“It’s not normal, if this is happening.”

But Nicolas Steinmetz, a former executive director of the Montreal Children’s Hospital, said he was also aware of extra payments made under the table.
“Disgusting,” he said of the practice.
Years ago, patients would give their doctors tokens of appreciation — a bottle of wine or a fruit basket at Christmas, he said. “In the country, it would be a chicken, but that’s different; that won’t buy you a Mercedes.”
Michael McBane, of the Health Council of Canada, said the problem of greedy doctors exists everywhere — not just Quebec.
But, he noted, the medical profession is self-policing.
“Doctors aren’t going to report on themselves. The fox is guarding the chicken coop.”
Mr. McBane added that illegal billing and queue jumping are clear violations of the Canada Health Act.
Hospital officials at the Jewish General Hospital and the Royal Victoria Hospital refused repeated requests for interviews.
Both issued email statements late Friday.
“There’s no preferential treatment of patients. All receive best quality care,” Jewish General wrote. “Furthermore, the JGH has a policy on conflict of interest regarding possible gifts offered to staff by patients.”
Added the Royal Victoria: “[Our hospital] expects professional conduct from all staff . . . This includes avoiding potential conflict of interest with respect to offers of cash or gifts.”

Montreal Gazette


  1. Uau, sa-mi trag una. Stiam de lunile de asteptare pt un control medical, dar asta cu spaga m-a lasat paf. De fapt, trebuia sa fac legatura. Duh!

  2. Se da spaga sipe aici ( nu doar la doctor ), insa mai cu grija decat in Romania ... De fapt, Canada e un soi de Romanie mai cosmetizata ..

  3. Tzipi, cate cazuri de dat spaga la medici cunosti tu in Canada? In procente, te rog. Daca sunt 2-3 cazuri, nu-i asa ca in conceptia ta, tot sistemul sanitar canadian este la fel de corupt ca si cel romanesc?


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